Cursed: I don't understand what it is you wanted the AFAP to do with Virgin Blue for the V Aus pilots? V Aus as far as I can make out is a brand new company and at the time the terms and contracts where written had no pilots and therefore no Union to represent them. If they did not want the job on that contract they did not have to join, there were a LOT of jobs going at that same time, they picked V Aus.