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Old 6th Jun 2010, 01:37
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Dark Knight
 
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Just wondering, in the wake of lots of very negative views, whether the AFAP has EVER had a decent win in Australian aviation history? or have they consistently made a bit of noise then folded?
Regardless of the posters intent it was an opportunity for the AFAP powers that be to communicate the pro's of AFAP membership, outline some of the short term wins and provide an overall "big picture" plan for where the Federation is headed in the future, particularly with regard to strengths, weaknesses within the organisation, dealing with a changing workplace legislative environment, and plans to work with/around/against other unions to achieve said objectives (threats). Sure some, if not all of this information is available elsewhere and if you're a member then you get the newsletter. But for the uninitiated & disillusioned this was another opportunity for the AFAP management types the spruik the product.
Apache: there is a very large difference between your original post and what you now suggest was your `intent’. Had the original intent been phrased in such a manner then perhaps the answer to the question may have been forthcoming and educational. The history of the AFAP goes back to 1938 and beyond with ramifications from the historical evolution of pilot industrial relations in many countries.

Some of the achievements and particularly methods of doing things relate to or are derived from other industries ie. The original speed/weight formula for deriving pilot pay originated from the USA railways.

Has the AFAP ever had a decent win in Australian Aviation History? Yes!
There are many; many very successful ones.

However, the achievement of these successes derived from dedicated, meticulous research, advice by both pilots and their employed staff; hours of negotiation within the pilot group/s to arrive at a united claim to put to management followed by, often, long and tedious AFAP/Management negotiation some ending up in various Industrial Relation Courts/Tribunals.

Underpinning the successes was a united, supportive pilot group prepared to stand for the AFAP which in the end, and always is/was, the pilot group.

The moment this support and unity was shattered the level of success any pilot group was severely limited.

I suggest history fully supports degradation of pilot remuneration and working conditions within this country; Success of/by the AFAP is only achievable by the full and UNITED support of the pilot group!

DK

A compromise is the art of dividing a cake in such a way that everyone believes he has the biggest piece.

Last edited by Dark Knight; 6th Jun 2010 at 01:39. Reason: additional thoughts
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