So what you're saying is that it's basically impossible to get enough money because I'm bound to be too young for that a/g? Thing and because of the minimum wage I won't be ableto make enough money for lessons. Also I looked up directions and it's about 20 miles away so Im going to have to get mum or dad to drive me which they're not going to want to do. They've still not said yes to lessons yet- I'm hoping they will let me for my birthday then I can talk to the people there about doing some odd jobs. It would show mum I really want to do it I guess. Thanks for explaining things though. X