I was going to stay out of this lunatic asylum of a debate as my delicate sensitivities are easily offended by the vitriolic, unreasonable, puerile and child-like responses to anything perceived as 'anti dis-union'. But cripey the ban a red herring!!! I have rarely read such an arrogant remark tossed in so casually. It unfortunately epitomises the position of those militant few within the dis-union. The ban is NOT working, all courses are filled as far as the eye can see with new persons from all continents taking the slots. Even that icon of union virtue, the US of A is yielding candiates capable of meeting the requirements of CX. When those 50 ish year olds leave, their places will be grabbed by members of the AOA acceptable to management acceptable to management, and their places will be easily filled by aircrew who will not join and be apathetic to the dis-union and their places will be easily filled by aircrew who will not join and be apathetic to the union. Don't you get it, are you blind? The management is fragmenting the pilot body yet again and you are willing pawns to the action. When are you going to wake up and smell the coffee? And dear old polite Frankg says 'the ban makes sense', he would.