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Old 13th Mar 2010, 18:34
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Rananim, the questions in #101 have many assumptions. In general they are non issues particularly where compared with the principles of aircraft control and crew monitoring. The issue of training has to be considered in context.

1. Why should the PF need to evaluate the relationship of the control surface – stick position? Many aircraft have gearing changes or variable movements, more usually hidden from the crew. The inference that this knowledge is required to fly an aircraft is misplaced. The report discusses the ‘gearing’ change because it occurred at touchdown with bank applied, and at a time when a control change was made / required.

2. The task of monitoring is to check / crosscheck the output (the result) of an activity – you know what you put in, but what has happened. This is the basis of the control loop used in manual fight. For a lateral input, the output check usually looks for a combination of roll and roll rate.
The incident was a "I have control" situation, which worked; no requirement to invoke the takeover button.

3. Re aircraft technical knowledge; the inference is that this is something which can only be gained from experience. These aspects can / should be taught where and when relevant – in context.

If the Captain is always going to fly the crosswind landing how do First Officers ever learn?
Simulator?
Another thread (http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/31609...ml#post5562388, here onwards) on this subject has asked if simulators adequately represent the one wheel touch down and thus provide the correct control response which pilots might experience (so far without response).
Pilots who are trained in simulators can be taught crosswind landing technique and provisioned with some confidence, but the actual experience of the landing is required to reinforce the skills.
If a pilot is qualified to fly the aircraft then logically they may attempt a landing (within limits – a separate discussion). Similarly the safety aspects are a separate discussion; why should there be any difference between passengers / no passengers.
If this was a cargo flight there could have been an investigation, similarly for a pure training flight, but would the investigation report have been different?
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