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Old 5th Mar 2010, 22:02
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Agaricus bisporus
 
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MH, as you are type rated all your hours are P2.

Potkettle and Irish Jet Drivers statements about logging P1u/s when handling pilot is totally incorrect in UK/EU. There are very specific requirements for logging that category, see many previous threads on the subject, but P1u/s has NOTHING whatsoever to do with who is PF.

Under no circumstances whatsoever could you log P1u/s while under initial FO line training. That would be a contradiction in terms.

If in doubt, ask your Training Captain to clarify this really very simple subject which for some reason is widely misunderstood.

P1 = Captain of the aircraft, no matter who is flying it. (Obvious, isn't it?)

P2 = Co-pilot, no matter who is flying it. (Equally obvious)

P1 under supervision = an experienced FO who, under the pre- arranged supervision of the Capt has carried out all the actions of a commander from beginning to end of a flight or series of flights- ie from crewroom pre-flight duties, weather, fuel, notams, crew brief, dealt with all ground staff matters, made all decisions relating to the flight/s until their completion without being significantly overridden. Again, it is clear that it has nothing to do with who flew the aeroplane - what is being signed for is "acting as Commander". P1u/s would usually cover all the sectors flown on a particular day. Though as you can see it is often not done correctly!
It will come in time, but is widely seen as irrelevant nowadays as the CAA seems to accept a statement from the airline that this requirement has been "satisfied".

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