Snas i would agree with you to some extent but don't forget many of our crew have degrees and have come in from diffrent backgrounds .I met a guy who was a lawyer a few weeks ago i also know of crew who have been teachers, dentists and doctors before joining BA .My original point was that some of our crew could move onwards and upwards if they left BA however some would end up in M&S.BA crew have it good i don't think BA is a bad employer those that are in dispute should take a long hard look and stay or go. If i was so unhappy in my employement i would be looking for alternatives.It comes back to walking the walk and from what i have seen they only talk the talk.