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Old 11th Feb 2010, 08:55
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I do note the Jepp reference is "AU". I'll have to go to work to read that section.

Well, in the UK it's "After the landing [aircraft type], line up" (ref CAP413). No "behind" there.

Found some documents online.

UK ATC directive.
4.3 Differences between ICAO and UK phraseology

4.3.1 The international standard phraseology set out by ICAO for the issue of a
conditional clearance differs slightly from the standard phraseology used in the
UK. The phraseology described by ICAO for such situations uses the word
‘behind’ and repeats the condition at the end of the clearance, e.g.

“SAS 941, behind the landing DC9, line up behind”


From A EuroControl document,

*ICAO:
In all cases a conditional clearance shall be given in the following order and
consist of:
1. Identification;
2. The condition
3. The clearance; and
4. Brief reiteration of the condition

Conditional phrases, such as “behind landing aircraft” or “after departing aircraft”, shall not be used for movements affecting the active runway(s), except when the aircraft or vehicles concerned are seen by the appropriate controller and pilot.

Big Jet 345, behind landing Airbus 321, cross Runway 09 at C2, behind.
Behind landing Airbus 321, cross Runway 09 at C2 behind, Big Jet 345



I also appreciate that for the vast majority of people flying within Australian borders/FIR, they are native English speakers so "once is enough". This is not the case in Asia, South America, Middle East and Europe. Therefore, the second "condition" must be read back.
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