Originally Posted by
S.F.L.Y
Having different points of view isn't an issue. I find interesting to notice that in both scenarios crews took manual control of the aircraft when no energy was left to prevent a high Vz fall. fortunately for the BA crew enough height was available to reduce this Vz prior to the impact.
[sorry, I know "don't feed" etc., but...]
This is plain wrong. BA038 started to have problems (one engine) at 720ft, lost thrust on both at about 600, and realised they had a dual engine failure at 480ft. They then started trying to get engines back. AP stayed in until below 200ft, stick shaker below that.
The other crew had
warnings of problems at "high altitude" (see report), thrust retarded at 2000ft, unnoticed (it appears) until stick shaker at 460ft.
So,
which crew had more height to recover with (460 or <200) ?
Which crew also had
thrust to recover with ?
...and which crew managed to get the plane down on the grass such that some pax didn't even realise they'd crashed ?
BA crew didn't "fortunately" have "enough height" - they had
less (at stick shaker) than the THY crew, and no engines. They simply flew a lot better with what they had.