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Old 28th January 2010 | 08:06
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Cirrus_Clouds
 
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There is one very simple solution to the individual, if you don't like the contact put infront of you, DON'T ACCEPT IT!

Or is paying for a TR/Line Training too precious, ensuring you gain "some sort" of experience flying a jet, but are further in debt, before your kicked out onto the street again?

If I had a bad contract given to me, yes I'd study it, just like your doing now and I would walk away if it's that $hit (this contract seems to be) and go into another job (I previously turned down a low salary in the airline industry and went into a much better paid job in another and now using that to pay for my training - and note I'm not in debt) or even get another job to increase that monthly salary. Yes I would have to work harder (been there, done that already etc) and won't be in the industry I trained for, but at least I wouldn't regret my decision and feel I'm being used!

I totally agree why your all angry, I would be too, but the management know that there are some desperate ones who will accept this contract.

If you were "bonded" to EZY and knew about this contract before you embarked on a CTC/OAA scheme, would have you bothered doing this training? .... most answers would be no. Thankfully people going through CTC/OAA etc are not "bonded" by this company, but you decide whether to work for them or not.

EZY is 1 airline, how many are there out there, 100's? Just because they are recruiting right now to "use" you, does it mean you have to accept it? Be patient and work for another better airline on better T's and C's.

Have any of these EZY pilots on these contracts got other jobs, whilst they don't fly, I sure would!!??

Until pilots stop paying for TR/Line training and stop accepting these T's and C's then things will change.

I know it's easy saying when you aren't lumped with all this debt like these CTC/OAA guys but you lot are being "used" for your ££££££ like you have been before.

What did CTC/OAA say if in the unlikely event of being in a recession/industry low, is there a way and means of minimising the loan payments back or didn't you ask this key question?

If the answer is the risk is on the cadets shoulders as you have to pay back a loan regardless of what the circumstances are, then you've got to be 1000% sure you have thought out the worst case scenario and how you would manage it, before you sign any line agreeing to do a full-time time course.

Only YOU as the individual concerned can take action of some sort whether quitting or getting another job, will help sort this one out.

What's the chance you could get a better job doing something else to pay off those debts?

Are any "non fully trained" CTC pilots being taken on by EZY i.e. pilots done their training e.g. modular way and completed JOC/MCC at CTC and being offered different contracts with EZY? .... I know of one, but this was "before" this new contract came about and they aren't affected and note they trained by the "modular" route at a number of FTO's.

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