So the message that comes out here is that provided some Mug is prepared to put up the cash, be it Government or Private (and lose said money) it's OK because aeroplanes are being built. This is exactly what is wrong with the industry. The aircraft design industry will not progress until those inside it (and especially those outside it) are convinced that there is money in it. If you argue the "national good" ( whatever that is) then probably the Gippy Mod of the PA31 has contributed more to moving people around in Australia than the Airvan ever did