Mr Gibson, can you also check facts with others who know (Mr Bunker at least is married to senior cabin crew). A lot of the stuff some cabin crew have been saying in the press is a pretty skewed version of reality and based more in the pap BASSA have fed them over the last 12 months. I'm thinking the blaming fines (all accounted for 3 years ago in a profitable year), fuel hedging losses (BA have made a net profit over many years, last year being exceptional) etc etc. That and the tendency to believe that their pay is the figure in the bottom right hand corner of their payslip (after all deductions, including pension and any money spent downroute and withdrawn in the hotel).