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Old 10th Dec 2009, 16:33
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dave747436
 
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Initially, I too thought you were here for reasoned debate, but I think I was wrong (not something you have ever admitted no matter how many links are provided for you)

You selectively answer questions & change tangent as you become cornered.

I started to get your requested links for you then thought NO. The information is out there & easily available - get your own links to prove the posters here wrong if you're so confident that they are wrong.

I asked these questions in a previous post. Perhaps you missed them.

The dozens of posters here are not trying to prove that they're right & you're wrong - in the main I think they're trying to get you (and others like you who are willing to engage) to ask questions of your union.

Then apply the same rigor to the Unions answers as you apply to ours, here.

eg: Look at Unite's answer to the question "Can BA dismiss you for striking?"
Ask yourself if the answer is full and frank. Does it mention that you don't have to be rehired and that the absolute maximum compensation is around 70grand? But this is a fact.

Has Unite ever done an independent poll of the members, or even an online poll so that it really knows the will for a strike? Are you happy with this?

On a show of hands BASSA passed the motion that it would not negotiate on permanent savings. That still stands. Are you happy with this?

Unite have stated that there will be no negotiation with BA until the impositions have been reversed. But BA cannot comply even if it wanted to - these crew have left the company. Are you happy with this non-negotiating stance?

Have BASSA explained why the new LHR crewing levels have health & safety implications at LHR, when the same BASSA approved the same crewing levels at LGW and deemed them adequate?

There is clearly a grey area in the law here, and I'm sure neither side is absolutely sure it will win.
Has Unite explained the implications of going on strike over imposition in Dec/Jan and then the Judge finding that the impositions are in fact legal in Feb?

Just ask some questions and take a good long look at the answers to see if you're happy.
Just answer me one of them.

Have your representatives ever offered BA permenant savings that do not have to be repaid at some future date? (In this business plan, just for clarity)

I think they haven't, but I'm willing to be corrected. (oh yes, I'll need a link....)

No picking on another subject in my post, just answer the question in bold.

Thanks.
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