I am more than happy for the employees of BA to bash their unions as much as they wish. My point is that they are more than capable of looking after themselves without Fincastle and Desertia sticking their noses in. You are correct Fincastle, I did work for a 'charter outfit' but as a senior training Captain. Your description implies derision, I can assure you that the charter companies are every bit as professional as BA, ask some of the cabin crew. Please don't waste your time sending me pm's, in view of your extreme rudeness in the past, I simply delete them.