To add to 18 wheelers argument I also flew with one of these guys and his ego and arrogance were beyond belief! For some one earning what he was I was knocked flat by his attitude! I do believe he may be one of the 18 as well! I also second te opinion that often union's are lead by people that have their own agenda's and more oftenthan not good union people end up in management. I have only ever come across a few real good eggs in positions of power within a pilots union. I think the current leaders of the BA cabin crew union are prime examples of why unions are a bad thing, not forgeting the ultimate union bafoon Auther Scargill! Worked wonders for the miners didn't he, I'm sure he didn't suffer financially for their cause as much as they did. Priced them out ofthe market! Don't get me wrong there is a place for unions but I much prefer to negotiate my own financial package based on what I'm prepared to do and how much I'm prepared to do it for!