Pilot Pay - we need more
This thread is a pprune broken record, plays again and again.
Don't like what 411a has to say, well as he says lump it. Fact is he is right and a lot of people don't care for it. So they play the man, not the ball.
Its all supply and demand a beazlebub has made a very accurate assessment of some of those forces. When the supply dries up, prices will go up. In 10 years from now an experienced captain who has the cojones to say no, I want more is going to make a lot of money. If they are prepared to move and sell their services they will get the cash. If you want to sit at some base and wait your turn for deadman shoes don't expect anyone to wave a fistful of cash at you. They own you and they know it.
Braveheart correctly points out a market distortion unique to pilots, the seniority list. Or the serfdom contract. No other group of professionals (Pilots are not professionals by most definitions of the term. No true professional would accept their position being based on seniority as opposed to merit) or skilled technicians would be so stupid to accept such a system. Look who is making good money these days and see if there is a seniority list in sight? The seniority list is a self inflicted wound that had some relevance in the past but is the managers friend and the pilots ball and chain.
A beazlebub points out what is required to do the job in terms of experience has changed, without a detrimental effect to the public. Travel is safer and cheaper. When the RJ was introduced in North America (to break seniority contracts) all the big heads said, they will fall out of the skies, can't fly jets without XX thousand hours blah blah blah. Did not happen. The Colgan accident, a TP not a jet, was just a tiny blip on a trend and is unlikely to change anything.
Fact is the requirements for the job have changed. The old slog to get few thousand hours in to not needed to get into a jet flight deck. The market dictates what people get paid by what people accept.
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