Shawn:
Sorry for not spotting your earlier post on the AA accident-
Full rudder was in fact applied.
I never said it wasn't. We've all seen the NTSB recreation. You can "see" the SIC wrestling with the controls. He was doing was what he *thought* was safe. Nobody told him that the "protection" provided by being below maneuvering speed did not apply to the rudder. Frankly, it was a shock to me, and I've been flying fixed-wing since 1973.