Sorry mates I must apologise it was a wind-up which got some of you going, don't forget the warning at the bottom of the page as Danny always says. As my BODlian pal rightly guesses I was just trying to emphasise the problems that can arise without seniority taking a greater say in promotion than perceived 'right stuff'. I'm still not telling you what my persuasion is though. Once again apologies to all those who took it the wrong way but keep the debate going.