Actually Flanker - I know a few pilots who're partial to what you prescribe in the London TMA and, having seen it done first hand, I'd counsel agin it.
I.e. talk about the NHP working like a 'one armed wallpaper hangar' in order to save the HP (and their egos) from themselves !
Bravado of this nature, in an aeroplane full of pax, and O/H London (or anywhere) we can well do without...... and let's not forget that some departures & approaches at certain airports within the USA (and accordingly their associated TMA's) make those in UK look almost childs play !
Last edited by Safety's No Accident; 31st May 2002 at 18:12.