12watt,
We've seen poster after poster patiently explain that the logging of instrument time is only something applicable in the US, that europe does it differently, logging whenever one is on an instrument flight plan, instead. Clearly, as we've seen the regulation verbatim, this is incorrect.
You've attempted patiently to explain the difference between instrument flight, and instrument flight rules...when there has never been a misunderstanding of the fact in any way, shape, or form.
Poster after poster has stated that one MUST and SHALL log IFR when on an IFR flight plan...when this is NOT the case.
The only thing you're left with, then, is the JAR-FCL 1.080 provision for conditions of flight...which provides two classifications: night, and IFR.
You'll note, if you think for a moment, that this is a condition of flight: Night CONDITIONS, and IFR CONDITIONS. Not Night Rules and IFR Rules. Not Night Regulations and IFR Regulations.
The regulation is clear. You log IFR C O N D I T I O N S.
Furthermore, the regulation is explicit with respect to when one may log instrument flight time, and it does not spell out logging it when on an IFR flight plan or clearance. In fact, the only thing to which it points is instrument conditions, and then clearly specifies that instrument conditions are those, and ONLY those in which one is required to operate the aircraft only by reference to instruments or under simulated instrument conditions.
JAR–FCL 1.080 Recording of flight time
(See IEM FCL 1.080)
(a) Details of all flights flown as a pilot shall
be kept in a reliable record in a logbook format
acceptable to the Authority (see IEM FCL 1.080).
Details of flights flown under JAR–OPS 1, may
be recorded in an acceptable computerised
format maintained by the operator. In this case
an operator shall make the records of all flights
operated by the pilot, including differences and
familiarisation training, available on request to
the flight crew member concerned.
(b) The record shall contain the following
information:
(1) Personal details:
Name and address of the holder
(2) For each flight:
(i) Name of Pilot-in-command
(ii) Date (day, month, year) of
flight
(iii) Place and time of departure
and arrival (times (UTC) to be block
time)
(iv) Type (aeroplane make,
model and variant) and registration of
aeroplane
(v) SE, ME
(vi) Total time of flight
(vii) Accumulated total time of
flight
(3) For each flight simulator or FNPT
session:
(i) Type and qualification
number of training device
(ii) Synthetic training device
instruction
(iii) Date (d/m/y)
(iv) Total time of session
(v) Accumulated total time
(4) Pilot function:
(i) Pilot-in-command (including
solo\\\\ slsolo, SPIC, PICUS time)
(ii) Co-pilot
(iii) Dual
(iv) Flight instructor / Flight
examiner
(v) A remarks column will be
provided to give details of specific
functions e.g. SPIC, PICUS, instrument
flight time*, etc.
* A pilot may log as instrument flight
time only that time during which he
operates the aircraft solely by reference
to instruments, under actual or
simulated instrument flight conditions.
(5) Operational conditions:
(i) Night
(ii) IFR
Now, several posters have expounded at great length, stipulating that we can consider nothing but the regulation, and here is the regulation presented verbatim regarding what is required per the JAR-FCL for a logbook entry. Do we find anywhere a reference to logging operational rules applicable to the flight? We do not. Do we find anywhere a reference applicable to logging the type of flight plan under which the flight is conducted? We do not. Do we find anywhere cited in which the log holder is to note the clearance under which the flight is conducted? Hardly.
What we do find is a requirement to note the CONDITIONS under which the flight is conducted, and we're given two options: night conditions, or IFR conditions. Clearly as a flight conducted under instrument flight rules can be in VFR conditions or IFR conditions, the regulation isn't asking the pilot to log the flight plan, the clearance, or the regulation under which he or she has operated...but the CONDITIONS.
Given that the regulation specifies the conditions as being night or IFR, and then clarifies just when IFR conditions may be logged (all together now: "
A pilot may log as instrument flighttime only that time during which he operates the aircraft solely by reference to instruments, under actual or simulated instrument flight conditions")...that leaves us with a regulation which authorizes the logging of IFR conditions and instrument flight when conditions are requiring flight by reference to instruments, or simulated instrument flight.
Nothing in the regulation points to, discusses, or touches on an IFR clearance, an IFR flight plan, or operating under IFR regulations. Only IFR conditions...or in other words, such conditions which do not permit flight without reference to instruments.
Now again, without waffling on about what's relevant here...can you explain this, 12watttim?
So it appears that you "shall" log IFR time but you "may log" instrument time.
Not at all. The regulation stipulates the conditions under which you may log instrument time, but speaks nothing about logging "IFR time."
The regulation speaks to logging IFR conditions of flight, and night conditions of flight. You shall log conduct your log in accordance with the regulation, and you shall log the conditions of flight, be it as applicable, night, or IFR.
Being on a clearance, a flight plan, or operating in a particular airspace dosn't come into it at all.
Notice that under the section you quote the instrument flight time, if it is to be logged at all,is to be logged in a spare column (in some logbooks a separate column is marked "IF", but that is not always the case). That is separate from the IFR column in all JAR logbooks!
The logbook does not define the regulation, does it? Of course it does not.
You've seen the regulation copied direct, and it's very specific. What's marked in the logbook is, as you like to say, irrelevant. What's marked in the regulation, as several posters have pointed out, is relevant...and the regulation does NOT speak to instrument flight rules, but IFR
CONDITIONS.