Leo - as always a pleasure to read your posts. Alas, for the rest of the lemmings at Ryanair I can only stand in open-mouthed amazement at their utter foolishness. Nonetheless, it appears that the voice of the people has been heard. The tragedy of this is that pilots at Ryanair would sooner be stuffed daily by Michael O'Leary than stand up for the basic employment rights that were fought for over many years by considerably braver people than themselves. At the end of the day they appear to have voted for an airline without collective representation - their wish will be granted and they will be picked off one by one.