Quote (originally posed by Aldente)
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are you suggesting that this thread should just be for pilots only ?
to which the reply was :-
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What does it say on the header at the top of the page ?
Perhaps, Bruce Wayne, you might like to ask the same question of The Real Slim Shady (as he has chosen rather conveniently to ignore my question) about his other half, Mrs Slim Shady (aka Abusing the Sky), who was particularly vociferous on here a few weeks back ....
Old-Dented,
If you choose to take the comment out of the the contextual basis in which it was provided, I will do you the favour of a little in depth information:
Aviation, be you in management, flight deck, cabin crew, engineering, ops, wherever is not a career it is life commitment and we draw a degree of interest in sharing it with those who may not be in the industry, but have an interest in it.
As such, the industry professionals that frequent this site are glad to share information and answer questions and enlighten those not in the industry to the realities, both fair and harsh.
This thread, and others, relate to the situation concerning Ryanair and BALPA.
BALPA is the Pilots and Flight Engineers trade union.
PPRune is the Professional Pilots Rumour Network
Ryanair is the operator to which the thread relates to.
Indeed, it is welcome to compare how certain situations are handled within other industries. If provides food for thought and progress.
What is not welcomed is a dictatorial attitude from those outside of the industry toward those within it.
the grim repaDumb and Dumber(leo and slime).
Wel well ladies.Looks like leo and slim think that the threats,intimidation and bullying have won the day over ryanair pilots.If you believe that,then gents you are as dumb as i always knew you were.The dance is far from over,but i think you know that.
Grimm,
if you think that professional flight crews, who, in the line of their work, are in control of 70 odd tonnes of aircraft with 190 odd lives inside it, are cowering and trembling over threats, intimidation and bullying, you are mis-informed.
Granted there are and will always be a few that provide amazement that they can tie their own shoe laces, they are however few and far between.
Pilots by their very nature are of a personality type that would not respond to such behaviour. After all, these professional people have the ultimate decision in an operational situation.
Any pilot that would be cowed by intimidation, threats and bullying would have a career cut very short.
That is why professional pilots are exactly that, professional pilots.
dannyalligaLeo,
2 replies, not 1 single answer.
Just arrogant lessons on how one should live his own lives and very short sighted and childish comments like "if you don't like it then leave".
FR management has always written in capital letters that FR pilots enjoy the best roster in the industry, well what happened to that? Why are they offering 5/3 now?
They have always said that FR pilots enjoy the best pay in the business, well why are they offering new and lower paid deals now?
Danny,
It cant be put any more plainly than leo with :
everyone else is firing, going under and laying off
As per previously stated, if you are so unhappy, why don't you seek an alternative position with another operator ?
You wont, because the industry as a whole is in a very difficult situation and there are more layoffs, people in hold pools than there are positions available.
If you think that contract terms are going to be posted within this thread, or any other, or discussion on future contract terms, based on an operational intention, you should seek psychiatric assistance.
As for BALPA...
the top article on their news and campaigns section...
One of the advantages of having a ‘voice’ in the workplace is the opportunity to influence the management decision making process. Through effective use of the BALPA web we can collect and collate your views. For example, it has recently been highlighted that there are differing views from the various pilot groups on the subject of wearing uniform in the simulator.
As a result, the Senior Training Captain has agreed that we should conduct a poll to establish the strength of feeling on this issue and the decision to wear uniform or not whilst conducting the line-orientated examination will be reconsidered in light of the results of the poll.
Jesus Christ on a space hopper ... Are you
kidding me !!!
What next; A campaign for Hawaiian shirt Friday ?
That's great for industry T&C's and worth the BALPA subscription fees, Dignity, Respect and flip flops !