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Old 4th Jul 2009, 00:23
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The Real Slim Shady
 
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That’s not a ballot, that is out and out intimidation and I think many people realise that.
You know that you are talking complete and utter rubbish. Getting people to vote on their future is intimidation? Telling them that how they vote is down to their own beliefs and conscience, that it matters not whether it is a YES or NO vote so long as they have there say?

Is that more intimidating than BALPA refusing to acknowledge the wishes of the pilots at EMA and forcing a CAC recognition application leaving us no option but to undertake a judicial review if they succeed with recognition?

No,alibaba, you consider it intimidation because you are spineless: you won't stand up and be counted as a BALPA supporter. Scared of losing your job : more chance of that if BALPA get in? Scared that someone might point out the deficiencies in your logic of paying BALPA to royally screw you over?

It's a ballot of WORKERS not MEMBERS
Not according to BALPA: they want to ignore our vote and ""engage with the BALPA pilot community". Ignore the "workers" and deal with the "members".

(1) This paragraph applies if—

(a) the CAC proceeds with an application in accordance with paragraph 20 or 21, and

(b) the CAC is satisfied that a majority of the workers constituting the bargaining unit are members of the union (or unions).

(2) The CAC must issue a declaration that the union is (or unions are) recognised as entitled to conduct collective bargaining on behalf of the workers constituting the bargaining unit.

(3) But if any of the three qualifying conditions is fulfilled, instead of issuing a declaration under sub-paragraph (2) the CAC must give notice to the parties that it intends to arrange for the holding of a secret ballot in which the workers constituting the bargaining unit are asked whether they want the union (or unions) to conduct collective bargaining on their behalf.

(4) These are the three qualifying conditions—

(a) the CAC is satisfied that a ballot should be held in the interests of good industrial relations;

(b) a significant number of the union members within the bargaining unit inform the CAC that they do not want the union (or unions) to conduct collective bargaining on their behalf;

(c) membership evidence is produced which leads the CAC to conclude that there are doubts whether a significant number of the union members within the bargaining unit want the union (or unions) to conduct collective bargaining on their behalf.
So the wishes of the non union workers don't come into the equation here: not that it matters in the final analysis.

BALPA will fail.......again.
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