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Old 10th Jun 2009, 09:51
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Pilot Pete
 
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Give DominicYPGV a break, he's only 17 according to his profile and still a student. I personally can forgive him for falling for the much vaunted government line that ID cards will make us all safer.

Fact is though Dominic, the 'safer' concept is just spin, by a government that has now fallen to its knees and will not be with us for much longer. The scheme is going to cost billions of pounds and is a complete waste of taxpayers money, when our economy is so far up the swanny that our children, and possibly even our children's children are going to be paying the price for years to come.

The scheme is all about surveillence of the population. It is doing away with the rights of individuals. We have seen this creeping in year after year here in the UK with CCTV cameras in every city and town, monitoring our every move. Why? Because the whole society has taken a too pc stance for years and allowed kids to grow up with no sanctions on bad behaviour. They become adults with similar anti-social lifestyles and the police and criminal justice system have been unable to control them. The easy option? Get video evidence. It makes policing easier, leads to easier convictions. But, at what cost? ALL of us under surveillence 24hrs a day. Nothing to fear if you are innocent! Right, tell that to the many, many convicted but innocent people from the 1960s-1990s who were 'stitched up' and sent to prison by a corrupt minority of police.

So, now ID cards. They WILL become compulsory, after having been introduced via the back door - 'voluntarily' for airport workers who can't get their airport security pass issued or renewed without them and will effectively be laid off if they refuse to get one. We are considered a 'trusted party', which means that they can issue them without too many problems as we have already had all the background checks done. Next will be people like Prison Officers, Police, Firefighters, Civil Servants etc etc etc until all of a sudden 10 million people have had them 'voluntarily' forced upon them. Eventually you will have to have one to go about your daily business - they will make rules like needing to show a national ID card to book a train ticket, a flight, to gain access to a city centre, the list could go on. Eventually you will be unable to live your life without one.

And will this stop terrorism? No. Will this prevent the 'unhinged' pilot from taking control of his aircraft and wreaking havoc? Of course not. Remember, the pilot already has control, he doesn't need a weapon. He just choses his moment and there is nothing anyone can do about it if he is thus inclined. Can you now see why yor previous post was so ridiculed by others? ID cards will do NOTHING to prevent terrorist attacks. How many of the bombers in the UK on 7/7 would they have stopped? None. They were all British Citizens. They are what is known as 'clean skins', they grow up here, have no criminal convictions and then turn fundamentalist. They would all be eligible to apply for and get a national id card! As for the Glasgow bombers - they were Doctors in the NHS! Do you think they would be refused a national ID card if they had jumped through all the hoops for issue?

The whole ID card thing is part of a much bigger plan to control the populace. If you haven't already, take a look at stop the database state » NO2ID and just have a read about DNA database expansion, the monitoring of all phone calls, emails, urls visited etc etc and just see how unjust this really is. And do you think they had a public referrendum asking our opinion on whether we want this or not? I'll let you guess at the answer.

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