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Old 5th Jun 2009, 10:13
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Do you seriously expect airline staff to suspend the human rights of their customers by forcing them to pray in a toilet, or by preventing them from praying at all?
I was not going to coment on this thread, but be very careful before making such simplistic statements.

Article 9 of the ECHR legislation says

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion;
this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief and freedom,
either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to
manifest his religion or belief, in worship, teaching, practice and
observance.

Freedom to manifest one’s religion or beliefs shall be subject only to
such limitations as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a
democratic society in the interests of public safety, for the protection of
public order, health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and
freedoms of others.
I would put it to you that if a group of Hasidic Jews decide to worship opposite of a group of Muslims, or vice versa, it would easily fall foul of laws involving inciting religious hatred and therefore the airline crew should consider stopping it.

In fact, should a mini riot develop, the airline crew or even another passenger would be lawfully entitled to kill a rioter, without denying a basic human right, per article 2, para 2.

Article 2 – Right to life
1 Everyone’s right to life shall be protected by law. No one shall be
deprived of his life intentionally save in the execution of a sentence of a
court following his conviction of a crime for which this penalty is provided
by law.
2 Deprivation of life shall not be regarded as inflicted in contravention of
this article when it results from the use of force which is no more than
absolutely necessary:
a in defence of any person from unlawful violence;
b in order to effect a lawful arrest or to prevent the escape of a person
lawfully detained;
c in action lawfully taken for the purpose of quelling a riot or
insurrection.
So please, in future, be a little more careful when quoting 'human rights' as a catch all.

Personally, I find any type of overt religious worship in front of a captive audience to be distasteful, regardless of the religion, whereas I quite happily helped a muslim sitting next to me to comply with Ramadan by looking out for the first evidence of sunrise, so that he could eat his meal without worrying. as it was a privilege to assist someone of deveout faith, who was also kind and considerate in his behaviour.