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Old 11th May 2009, 04:48
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Taking off without a DP or SID

Lets say you are released for departure from a satellite airport (airport in a metropolitan airport that is not the primary). You takeoff and try to contact departure but cant due to freq congestion. Are you cleared into the bravo? And even if you are able to promptly contact departure do you have to hear "cleared on course" before you can start your turn on course?
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