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Old 3rd Apr 2009, 17:20
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Sebastian-PGP
 
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Homo Sapiens haven't been around for millions of years. Speaking of Wikipedia, even a precursory visit shows you to be way off the mark (try 50-150K years max). If you're getting that sort of thing wrong, I can't imagine why anyone would find the rest of your post credible.

Did you bother reading the link I supplied? The empirical link between CO2 and AGW isn't even debated by the skeptics like Singer and Lindzen.

As for Mann's work, it's been entirely vindicated (specifically) in IPCC4, which is endorsed by the organizations I mentioned. Again, if the choice is your misinformed anonymous speculation or the peer reviewed discussions of those organizations...not a tough call to make. Conspiratorial rantings aside, if there's any merit to your arguments, why aren't skeptical scientists providing peer reviewable data and rebuttal analyses? They take pot shots and run editorials, sure...but nothing resembling a peer reviewable body of work like the reality-accepting climatologists have done.

The silence from your side is deafening.

As for your last point, if you think XOM and BP have a vested interest in us moving away from petrol to non-hydro carbon resources, you probably think GM has a vested interest in you buying a Toyota.

Well, that could possibly change--maybe they'll start doing more than pay lip service to biofuels, solar, etc.

Bob--sure, they could all be wrong. But what if they're not? The consequences of doing nothing are nothing short of potentially life threatening for billions of our progeny.

We don't have an unlimited time to guess. We have to go with what the most likely scenario is, and lack of a credible alternative from the other side makes the public policy discussion a lot simpler.

Once again...the misinformed conspiratorial rantings of non-scientists like tempestnut, or the consensus view of the folks trained in the physical sciences (as though all those propeller heads could pull off the conspiracy that tempestnut suggests they're doing)...it's not a tough call to make if you're even the least little bit rational.

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