been waiting for this discussion with great anticipation.....just remember the past, and the folks who gave it all up to make airline flying in Aust. a better place for all.....and never deny a man his right to a livelihood. for better or for worse....and believe me there is a "worse" because we lived it....you reap what you sow,.... so go ahead and plant your fields of sh%#...don.t whine when you harvest it.