Jimothy, go read it again. What I am trying to say, that until both the groups can get it together you are pushing it uphill. Sure QF'S attitude over the years would get up anybodies nose, and it is not a attack on anyone in person, but the culture still exists, and by the way I also have one flying for QF, so that ends that theory. I just think it would be great if you all could get your s#it together and stick it to management thats all.