The value that I would add to this thread, if you would accept it as value, is to point out that WWW and his acolytes are not neccessarily right. They are only stating opinions, and one-sided opinions at that.
I'm an optimist Alex always have been always will be but it's hard to see the green shoots of recovery at the moment
When they start appearing your organisation can expect my business and right now nearly everyone is saying wait and see what happens to the industry. I don't thing anyone really knows what's going to happen but it will be interesting to see