The Shadow,
Thanx for the reminder links. It is too hard to find them all, but there were some posts that argued that the stick shaker at 500ft was recoverable. So it may not really be "eastablished". Here is one:
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/3...ml#post4768223
I think there were a couple verifying recoveries in sim.
How unrecoverable was the trim and pitch up on G/A thrust versus the second uncommanded AT retard which there seems to be general agreement sealed their fate.