Moderators are busy removing the untold rubbish and the crass stupidity that pervades this thread. It is better to THINK VERY CAREFULLY about what you write before pressing the submit button.
It really is getting tiresome - we are beginning to hear the echoes of ear splitting repetition!
Edit: Actually, it is hardly likely that anyone could add anything further to this thread that has NOT been said and repeated many times already - the CVR chat would help a lot though.
Oh! And while you might think you can use PPRuNe for a post chat - please don't - join MSN or such and don't waste our time.