Just reread the first 15 or so pages here....given what is known now....to pickup on some of the witness accounts both onboard and on the ground. One Dutch radio station interviewed a supposed pax who said they had turbulence as they were turning and then descending. Most of the rest of the onboard accounts were of turbulence right at the end...or as some put it..the aircraft just dropped...some said up and down and up and down. Folks on the ground stated seeing the aircraft nose higher and higher then fall off and then nose down...again consistent with the simulator run results.
Another set of remarks early in the thread concerned ATC and their penchant for cutting the corners on approaches and running it 'tight'. Can those who have gone into AMS since then advise whether it seems to be the same now or is there a perception that it has changed?
