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Old 7th March 2009 | 09:39
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rubik101
 
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Ice man stated that there is no way to fully recover from a stall at the height in questionin AMS. Really?
Some years ago, whilst undertaking -800 conversion I was asked to fly this very same scaenario, Gear down, Flap forty, idle thrust and maintaining the glideslope, allowing the autopilot to trim the aircraft.
Recovery was initiated at the onset of the stick shaker following Boeing procedures, i.e. agressively apply FULL thrust, pitch to 20 degrees and then push to maintain the pitch.
The height loss was around 200 feet from the onset of stck-shaker to the initiation of a steady climb.
Whilst I admit we were primed and ready for the manoeuvre, it is not correct to say that you cannot fully recover from this situation.
Had the throttles remained at the forward stop and had the Captain been able to maintain a pitch of around 20 degrees, the results would have been very different, I'm sure. As it was, the design of the A/T, coupled with the 'minor' fault caused the power to be reduced yet again, just when they needed it most.
Even a partial recovery might have resulted in a lot lower rate of decent at impact.
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