@Kpt40
Based on what You wrote here, the crew would have had to fly a G/A as the app was not established when passing 1000' AGL in IMC.
You could go on discussing this terribly accident forever, it will always come back to the same: the crew did not do what they were supposed to, namely FLY THE AIRCRAFT.
Thinking of how to discriminate between a 'good' and a 'bad' RA also does not lead to anything, unless You put a 3rd RA (like on the 47) into the system.
To all of You who hold Boeing responsible to create more sophisticated automation: what are You talking about? Are You aware that any of the highly computerized A/C of today present more or less the same number of software errors. Means the more software You put into a system, the more software problems You will create. To my opinion we are far away from beeing able to create a tecnical system that will be 100% failsafe.
Besides, isn't it the reason that we sit in 0L and 0R as pilots to prevent that things end up in an accident when any of the systems fail? To my philosophy we are paid to provide air transportation using our sound judgement exactly for situations like that, the day by day ops is already leading keen young airline executives to call for downgrading our profession to more or less system operator status. Hudson River was a splendid example for what I mean, that crew earned the salary for all US Airline crews for a year. I would also say it is not missing sensitivity to call it a gross error if a crew did not acomplish the task that they were supposed to.
As to reaction from the Turkish side, I would compare it to the sick reaction of Brazilian authority when prompted to improve ATC, this in connection with the findings of the 2006 midair. For those who do not know, Brazil ATC is in the hand of military, looks like this is painting a certain picture.
I think it would be a high time for international pilots association to attack these 'cultural' problems in a more agressive way to the benefit of the aviation industry.
Last edited by Flyinheavy; 6th March 2009 at 23:45.