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Old 5th March 2009 | 00:19
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Mistakes can & will be made with both Boeing & Airbus, it is my feeling that the Boeing one's should perhaps be easier to identify & rectify, but someone will always find a way not to
In spite of some clever footwork,it really doesn't seem you're right, does it ?

merely pointing out that , unwittingly, the pitch trim is "almost used " as a primary flying contol on the 737 (I.E. it is used when manually flying simultaneously/almost as an aid to, the elevators.) The same I am sure is happening in the A320.
No, normally, you don't have to.The aircraft does for you what you have to continually do manually on the 73.
It's only on a vastly degraded mode that the comparison in handling can be made.
What I find disturbing is how quick you seem to have resolved the whole investigation, and to me, that smacks of some arrogance.
Most of the Airbus pilots posting on this thread have refrained, for lack of data, to put the finger on one of the aspects of the flight. There only seem to be an agreement on :
  • The low starting altitude for the low speed test.
  • The AoA # 1 and 2 sensors,failure, leading to FAC #1 and 2 "Fail" status.
  • The stabilizer position frozen in the setting it achieved just prior to the "Stall" warning.
I personally posited that, at least after the first stall, the crew had achieved a recovery, but not completed it.
I also believe, for experience, that past the entry into that very high pitch, followed by severe banking,low Gs... the crew had all that was necessary for some severe spatial disorientation.
I can't begin to imagine what happened inside that cockpit (multiple warnings, unusual attitudes, conflicting informations...)
(These assumptions are mine and only mine)
Questions are posed, and you have no right to make any judgement either on the crew or the aircraft state before we get more data.
I much prefer the attitude of those advocating more training, more stringent test requirements...etc... Their obvious object is air safety, not a childish intent to prove that as the hairy 500 pound- gorillas, they'd have gotten out of such a situation, or that it wouldn't have happened with another brand.

Just my two cents .
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