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Old 1st Mar 2009, 21:09
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Originally Posted by Rananim
If the localizer was captured above the path,the pilot(or trainee) may have not been able to program the automatics for a recapture.Perhaps then they took alll the automatics out.During the recapture,they get distracted(or rather fixated) and forget that thrust is manual.
Exactly. I keep trying to ignore all the inaccuracies posted here and every so often post what I have seen happen for real (quite a bit of time in both seats on the NG).

You miss the glide, disconnect both, struggle to re-establish the glide with a high ROD and cope with the trim changes as you slow and extend flap. A low-hours pilot will not have learnt the pre-emptive trim and thrust that a seasoned NG pilot does without thinking. He will be heaving back and forth, and will possibly be maxed out.

If you go up through the glide having just selected landing flap with no thrust and a low ROD, then you will lose speed at an alarming rate. Maybe so fast that the stick shaker comes too late. Especially if you slam the levers forward and pitch up for a go-around.

In our operation, we always fully disconnect both the AP and AT, and so have no protection against low speed at all.

If this is what happened, then it adds weight to those who bang on about stable approaches (quite rightly).
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