i am unutterably horrified by what i am reading in this thread. crm is obviously a very dirty word here. i work for a european carrier and as a rule flight deck and cabin crew have a very good working relationship. most of the cabin crew are aware that the pilots are stuck in a bullet proof box all day and make an effort to ensure that they are well looked after. also the pilots treat us with respect and courtesy. each is certainly not treated like the enemy by the other. i also worked for gulf air many years ago and again for the most part both parties had a friendly cordial working relationship. this sort of enmity and disrespect by both sides is a recipe for disaster in any airline.