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Old 16th Feb 2009, 01:54
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remoak
 
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I think you have me confused for somebody else... but in any case, I just prefer flying here to flying in Europe. Many of my Kiwi ex-colleagues feel the same way, and have applied to Jetstar. We don't NEED to fly for them, we just WANT to fly from a NZ base.

There are only so many days you can spend on the beach before you get bored, you know. Hmmm, what should I do? Go and join Air Nelson (if I can be be bothered paying for the "50 hours recent NZ I/F time" that they say they want - because we all know that I/F time in other countries is worthless)? No thanks. Eagle/Chook/ etc - go fly a small turboprop for not much money and be stuck in the right seat for however long it takes? Mmmm, no thanks. Join the queue for Air NZ, knowing that at my age, even if I were to get in I would probably never see a command before I retired? No thanks. Or go fly for Jetstar, and avoid all the nightmares mentioned above, but for a little less money? Hmmm, why not?

At the end of the day, most pilots who have been at it more than a couple of years value lifestyle over absolute salary.

And as I'm not going to be swayed bt the stupidest argument on the planet - that my taking a job there would somehow disadvantage others - I might just give it a go.

The ones that pretend they don't want this sort of job, or are claiming to stand on principle, just leave more room for the rest of us who understand that the market shapes salaries, not the futile "world owes me a living" dreams of pilots firmly stuck in the '60s.

And as for this:

Ive take my application off the web site, and they aren't getting a cent of my $181.50.
...has to be the most comprehensive refusal to see the big picture that I have ever seen.

And this:

Its got absolutely nothing to do with "market forces"....its exploitation driven by greed to maximise profits in order to line the pockets of CEOs and the like.
Err... now let me see. Why is any company in business? Could it be to make a profit? I wonder... And why do CEOs and "the like" earn such large sums? Could it be because the company succeeds or fails as a direct result of their actions? And that the sort of people able to pull off a low-cost airline successfully are extremely rare? And why would any company employ a CEO on a high salary when they could get an equally qualified one for less? Could it be because the market shapes CEO salaries/bonuses as well?

Sorry, your 1960's socialist dogma doesn't apply here...

What utter crap.... put the ticket price up a few dollars and drop the CEO and ilk multi million dollar packages.
Really don't know ANYTHING about how businesses work, do you?

remoak if flying a "shiny new jet" for the same pay as a coffee maker floats your boat, go for it mate, and good luck, but you definately won't see me there.
Well I'm pleased to hear that, but your argument is a crock. If a reasonably experienced pilot joins Jetstar, as an F/O, he or she can expect to be looking at a command within a year or two. Now he or she is making twice what the barista does. If said pilot wants to move on and get into training and management, they will end up earning 2.5-3 times what the barista does. Plus whatever other benefits are on offer.

Now, let's say our new F/O does a few years with Jetstar and the moves on to a larger arline, i.e. Emirates or Cathay. Now they have the jet experience they need to be attractive to the larger airline. Now they can expect to end up earning more like five times what the barista did. And probably having more fun.

It's called "big picture", folks...
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