That's true. If the IBT wins the election, the window will be 18 to 36 months, dependant on the membership.
What is a lie is the atlasforteamsters said 12 mos.
2 years have already elapsed in the formation of this Local. This not just starting on the 19th of December.
So either atlasforteamsters group is lying, or the IBT issues directives from the international that can be ignored.
No you are just uninformed. The letter serves as a template without consideration of what is currently in place. Given the ground work that has already been accomplished 8 months is very realistic at this point, and the Atlas Local is on scheduel to meet that goal.[/quote]
it cannot be a devisive issue, as the 1224 board will have control over the ONE union, our combined pilot group, per the class/craft resolution from the NMB. The ABX pilot-elected representatives will have control over our group. The budget. Which grievances they choose to take to arbitration.
Slow down...
Atlas and Polar will have complete control moving forward. ABX's structure will simply give us the initial structure required until we form our own, it really is that simple.
I thought the whole "atlasforteamsters" concept was a stand-alone Local. In fact, it's not what we're getting. The reality sent down from the IBT is we WILL be attached to the 1224 for a minimum of 18 mos. That is what the memo said. Unless you're on the General Board for the IBT, BeaverDriver, your statement doesn't hold any factual water.
In fact you are jumping to conclusions. Did you miss the part that this was a memo and not published policy? This is only a template again without any consideration being given to work already completed to form a local. Once elected leadership takes office, they will be presented with a ship rather than a set of plans to build a ship. AtlasforTeamsters is doing everything it can to provide that ship rather than having incoming leadership worry about building it, they will simply have to determine the course and direction to set sail. If that course and direction is a seperate Local it's a paper work shuffle at that point.
Let's look at the timeline that atlasforteamsters wishes. And I'll present it in the most conservative light, as things take time. It COULD get done sooner, but other than furloughs, what happens fast in aviation? Let alone legal issues.
Dec 19, 2008 IBT wins the election
If you were part of the transition in the past 2 years you would know that this is not something that has happened quickly or was it a spur of the moment decision.
Dec 20, 2008. All crewmembers with Legal or Medical processes with ALPA are tossed out to fend for themselves while things get "organized" - contact lists are made, passed out, the new service providers find out that we are infact teamsters. They have to wait until all the paper work is filed to work with the contract providers.
First off that is an out and out lie. The insurance providers are IN PLACE AND TAKE EFFECT AT MIDNIGHT ON THE 19th! NOBODY I repeat NOBODY WILL BE TOSSED OUT TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES! This includes Life insurance and Loss of License coverages at not change in cost or benefit! There will simply be a window that opens which will actually permit other crewmembers to get coverage, currently covered crewmembers will simply fill out application forms (insurance cannot be denied for those currently covered) and the new carrier will assume the policy.
Aeromedical too is in place and takes effect at Midnight on the 19th!
The only delay would be in the transfer of documentation. The new Aeroemedical service is ready to go and in place an ex FAA physician leads the medical group, they are backed by over 25 years of experience with the FAA...he and his entire staff will be working for all of us and bring to the table extensive networks and assets to support our crew force.
Sept 2009 Arbitirated contract is shoved down our throats with a 18 mos amendable date.
Once IBT is voted in on the 19th, an LOA will be submitted to the company to extend the PID. Also a transition period is allowed to provide a period of time for the new union to assume an active role in the negotiations. A gap negotiations committee is already in place and working on the openers after the initial transition window expires, no time has ever been wasted to maximize the negotiating effectiveness of the new bargaining agent.
May 2010 earliest AAWH pilots can leave Local 1224 - which has the majority of membership as AAWH pilots.
September/October (or there about) of 2009 and after a combined contract is in place the Atlas Local can review the options and make the decision to go forward as a stand alone Local.
March 2011 - contract amendable negotiations begin, also 1224 local has representative election. Earliest AAWH pilots can sit on the board.
At this time next year our combined group will be several months into the next term of our new contract. Amendable date TBA!
may 2013 - no contract - as NMB figures show, an average of 3.5 years to amend an RLA contract. however, negotiations are sidelined as the promised "stand-alone" local is formed. New election for reps.
You really have no idea what you are talking about.
Nov 2013 negotiations resume - New negotiators start over
Nov 2016 TA is passed. Only 7 short years before a negotiated contract. 7 years living under the arbitrated (and we all know how arbitrations turn out. We get screwed everytime. Even a win is only a partial win in the grand scheme)
So if you can live for 7 years under the pay and work rules arbitrated for us, go for it.
Again, you really have no idea what you are talking about!
DBW