8 months is EXTREMELY realistic given the foundation that has already been put into place. I would be very surprised to see the Atlas Local take more than 12 months to be fully operational, funded and staffed.
So you're saying the info from the IBT is wrong. Or you're saying you're already trying to subvert the IBT's direction.
Your flagrant use of "lie" is unfounded as much of your remaining suppositions.
The "12 months" was posted as what was understood at that time. It was the information that was available and at hand in the beginning. It may still be very true.
If you want to talk about "lies" then lets talk about the ALPA ones that have been founded and not "maybe's" on this PID that is going nowhere and Prater's lies on his commitments.
Your looking for absolutes from one side (Teamsters) and not putting the same standards of judgment to the current side in place (ALPA). The PID and time lines by ALPA are just a couple of fine examples on the ALPA side of the many they have lied about if you want to go down that path let alone the other documented ones.
I would go on with counters, but I just got my wakeup call for my DH.
Nope, I think ALPA sucks, as I've posted before. I KNOW IBT sucks worse. Nothing more, nothing less. The information YOU posted contradicts the self-proclaimed "facts" from your group.
No one argues ALPA is great, good nor anything other than it is. What the argument is about is how bad the IBT sucks. I don't like ALPA. I HATE the teamsters.
All most people do is point out inconsitencies. You can't come in, post a statement that is completely different from what has been preached for the benefit of this proposed change, then say, "ALPA sucks, move on".
Everyone knows the state of the industry. For you to imply otherwise is nothing short of insulting. What is more insulting are the posts focused around how an independant local will be formed and all the "benefits" of such in a certain time frame. When an actual document comes out in the middle of the election spelling out a far different reality than the proposed fantasy, and you expect everyone to march like good little soldiers, you must use illicit substances.
If atlasforteamsters would have been forthright, and prior to the election pointed out this information, it might be a different story. Selling one theory, then an "official" transition document comes out is asinine, and typical teamster-imposed directives. You don't come up with a solid transition plan, have it reviewed by lawyers and ensure it complies with bylaws in a short time frame. That memo was well thought out and written. It's a shame that the truth wasn't known earlier.
Welcome to life as a memeber of the IBT. They'll sell one promise and deliver a different reality. How is the shift of positions and selling lies different? Because there is a horse on the logo, does that make it more palatable?