A lot of the time period depends on the level of involvement of the members.
That's true. If the IBT wins the election, the window will be 18 to 36 months, dependant on the membership.
What is a lie is the atlasforteamsters said 12 mos.
So either atlasforteamsters group is lying, or the IBT issues directives from the international that can be ignored.
it cannot be a devisive issue, as the 1224 board will have control over the ONE union, our combined pilot group, per the class/craft resolution from the NMB. The ABX pilot-elected representatives will have control over our group. The budget. Which grievances they choose to take to arbitration.
I thought the whole "atlasforteamsters" concept was a stand-alone Local. In fact, it's not what we're getting. The reality sent down from the IBT is we WILL be attached to the 1224 for a minimum of 18 mos. That is what the memo said. Unless you're on the General Board for the IBT, BeaverDriver, your statement doesn't hold any factual water.
Let's look at the timeline that atlasforteamsters wishes. And I'll present it in the most conservative light, as things take time. It COULD get done sooner, but other than furloughs, what happens fast in aviation? Let alone legal issues.
Dec 19, 2008 IBT wins the election
Dec 20, 2008. All crewmembers with Legal or Medical processes with ALPA are tossed out to fend for themselves while things get "organized" - contact lists are made, passed out, the new service providers find out that we are infact teamsters. They have to wait until all the paper work is filed to work with the contract providers.
Sept 2009 Arbitirated contract is shoved down our throats with a 18 mos amendable date.
May 2010 earliest AAWH pilots can leave Local 1224 - which has the majority of membership as AAWH pilots.
March 2011 - contract amendable negotiations begin, also 1224 local has representative election. Earliest AAWH pilots can sit on the board.
may 2013 - no contract - as NMB figures show, an average of 3.5 years to amend an RLA contract. however, negotiations are sidelined as the promised "stand-alone" local is formed. New election for reps.
Nov 2013 negotiations resume - New negotiators start over
Nov 2016 TA is passed. Only 7 short years before a negotiated contract. 7 years living under the arbitrated (and we all know how arbitrations turn out. We get screwed everytime. Even a win is only a partial win in the grand scheme)
So if you can live for 7 years under the pay and work rules arbitrated for us, go for it.