Well said Julliet. Wise words spoken with the wisdom of 20/20 hindsight as apposed the wisdom of a teanager which we are disciussing.
In contrast to our discussions above, I have flown with an excellent chap recently who is an ex ATC controller from an international airport. You could make a video of how to do it properly just by filming him on any random sector. So there are good guys out there as well, I have never felt better supported when flying.
Just as an aside, a rendetion of this poem before each flight might help
"The Poor Co-pilot" Song Lyrics w/Free MP3 Download It is an old poem written by a DC3 chap in the 50s and set to music by an american folk group in the 70s.
Trubru, check your pms.
MM