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Old 27th November 2008 | 19:30
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atakacs
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At the time of the accident it would have been dark
15:30Z definitely not dark. Sunset 16:17Z today...

Was raining but nothing exceptional.

From TV footage clearly a high speed impact, not a botched ditching.
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