Well HandSolo, have to agree with you about one thing....no matter WHAT you tell the cabin, they will invariably do their own thing. Recall years ago on departure from CMB, told everyone in the cabin to "sit tight and stay belted in" because of wx ahead on the departure track. Sure enough, one hostie in the rear cabin decides to start drinks service and...presto, one nasty thump and the whole cart was upside down with many broken bottles....and this was in the clear, with no returns on the 'scope. Sometimes no matter what, s..t happens.