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Old 24th Sep 2008, 21:35
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flyburg
 
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Sjeez, here we go again,

For some reason KLM's hiring practices always seem a topic of discussion and unfair compared to other major european flag carriers.

The current hiring practices are unfair, however, KFA is wholly owned by KLM. Of course they would go there first for newhire pilots. It's a major selling point to actract new students ( I would think that this is no different than LH when it comes to their flight school) When they still require students above what KFA can supply they go to different flight schools. They do have a preference for ab initio trained pilots (beats the hell out of me why) instead of high time pilots.

In the past the have hired high time pilots of the street ( I am one of them) however, current managment doesn't do that. Once again I do not support that.

But to suggest that the other major European flag carriers are more fair is RIDICULOUS. I think KLM is the ONLY carrier that hires non dutch nationals that are not fluent in the dutch language. LH, AF, IB, AZ etc, You will not get hired there unless you are fluent in the national language (please, give me one example to prove me wrong) most of those airlines have the entire selection proces in the national language. KLM only requires that you learn the dutch language within a given period, witch has never been enforced. NO pilot has EVER been fired for not knowing the language!!!!!!!

Please, give me one example of LH, AF, IB or AZ where a pilot got hired that wasn't fluent in the national language ( I won't mention BA because everybody is supposed to be fluent in english).

At the moment KLM prefers AI new hires (once again I don't know why, and I don't approve) They go to KFA, once again, why not? it is their own flight school, but lately? KFA has not been able to supply enough pilots and they have looked to other flight schools. One of those flight schools is for example Oxford.

So their only difference is they prefer AI above high time, it's a mentality, other MEFC prefer high time instead of AI. are they discriminatory???

It's a current practice, in the past KLM has hired pilots from all over the world. I don't have the numbers to back it up but I would dare to go out on a limb and claim that KLM ( besides BA and perhaps LH) is the major European flag carrier that has relatively the most non national pilots than any other MEFC, We have pilots from the US, CAN, AUS and various other european
countries. Can AF, IB, AZ claim the same?

So, in closing, I would like to ask any of the people on this thread complaining about KLM hiring practices if they have been able to get hired at LH, AF, IB or AZ! probably not because they didn't speak the national language!!! Is that not discriminatory, however, I read very little complaining about that!!!

P.S. About the dockers paints, dude, get a life!!!!
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