Arrogant posters

[remarkablebean]

Mutual respect on here and onboard will work wonders.

Rainboe is right.

I realize I am new to this forum but not others, and I have been around the block, at least once.

I've checked out a number of threads on here, and some of the questions and observations made by passengers both on operational matters and even commercial ones are very rudimentary - and a lot of the answers given by those in the industry are comprehensive and well thought out. Others, well, are shirty and they should be kept to themselves...things like "Spotters stay out of this" are just plain stupid.

We also run into the same frustrations as you e.g. airport security lines and jobsworths implementing at-the-time politically expedient policies - please remember that too - AND it's not our fault the parking lot is full, or if Gatwick smells like a fish kettle.

In the middle of a discussion about the 777 incident, the idiotic postings on the Ryanair depressurization (I mean even that got me going) or one closer to my own heart, the A310 over Quebec, it is disheartening and annoying to have one liners thrown in when the discussion is serious and for those of us in the industry, informative and enjoyable. (Thanks for your comments on that btw Rainboe).

In terms of "we pay your wages" - well.....you buy a ticket or an IT package which includes an airfare, and some very little of that does help pay my mortgage - true. However, in the UK and Canada you also pay taxes for health care, and when you go to get an X-Ray, is that what you say to the radiologist or radiographer ? Or before surgery, you say the same thing to the heart specialist ? I dooooon't think so.

Those who work the cabin do sometimes get a lot of abuse from passengers, clients or guests - whatever you want to call them. They're there for your safety, and believe me, they know better. It's not their fault if the chocolate is no longer on your tray or if the portions are smaller - and it's not their fault either if the IFE breaks...if you don't like the service, get in touch with head office, cause they can't do anything about it. I'm sure when the service is reduced, and the crews are used to delivering the very best, their embarrassment is matched by the passengers dismay. Working with the traveling public is NOT for the faint hearted. As someone else posted "mutual respect" works wonders.

We should view this forum as a series of discrete sections and try to maintain them. If there is an operational matter which requires debate - such as the potential icing of fuel, or another incident which has broader consequences for other operators, then professionals debate. By all means observe!!

Would a non medical professional discuss non-evasive surgery for tissue detaching from the oventum on an internet board and get away with it ??

Ask questions and many many aviators being still very proud of what we do, will answer the questions as valuably as possible.

In return, afford a little respect and understanding if we're not always smiley and happy slappy - and remember where to point your complaints in future. Thanks very much!

P.S. Rant over.