..another thing ACMS: you state that the A scalers didn't do anything to stop B scales...blah, blah, blah. You seem to miss the obvious: the only thing done was you and your colleagues chose to accept B scales. In other words, you made and implemented the only decision necessary for the company to undermine and subvert our profession. I know, it hurts to realise this doesn't it? The A scalers made it clear to the company that they did not accept the B scale decision, or the subsequent ASL decision. Unfortunately, we work for a company that imposes its will. If other pilots were willing to work for worse pay and conditions (like yourself...), then guess what?, B scale and ASL are established. Look at yourself in the mirror. Most of us know what we are/were worth. We joined when the job was worth it.