Originally Posted by xxxchopperpilot, Aug 21 2008, 09:23
PJ2,
May i remind you that "Until we're happy" is a statement that you will NEVER find in any Aircraft Maintenance Manual. I think, recalling to memory you may find this statement in a "Complacency" Manual. If the manual says do a test flight, then you actually do a test flight. A test flight under no circumstances will involve commercial passengers. I hope i never board an aircraft that you are in command of, as i don't think that you are up to the job. If you truly are a professional pilot then have a GOOD think about what you are about to write.
xxxchopperpilot,
I wonder if you understand how truly offensive your remarks are, and the level of ignorance they betray both of the subject at hand and the individual you are addressing.
Since it's obvious that you are unaware, you may wish to know that PJ2 is a recently retired senior captain of a major airline who has exercised the responsibilities of command for a good many years, quite possibly more years than you've been alive. His contributions to the field of aviation safety are well know to many of us on this forum and others, and he has been actively making those contributions both as a part of professional discourse and in response to inquiries from interested non-professionals all the way back to the BBS days of AVSIG.
You, with your sum total of 7 posts in one month of membership on PPRuNe might not have understood the import of his response to you, so let's get things clear on a couple points:
- As a respected professional in this industry he was not suggesting to you that "until we're happy" was a substitute for the completion of required tests. In fact, just the reverse, "until we're happy" reflects a state of mind that is inclusive and sees the entire situation and ensures that all concerns are accounted for before we go flying, not just those that are enumerated in a maintenance manual. It's this approach to problems and exercise of judgement that marks a real captain, which he most definitely is.
- Because he's the gentleman that he is PJ2 has chosen to take the time to try and explain these concepts to sandbank, yourself, and others with similarly uninformed viewpoints on how the profession works. Frankly, most of the rest of the real professionals here are far less patient with such naiveté and if they respond to you at all it will be with a good deal less courtesy than PJ2 has shown you. That you were unable to discern the points that he was trying to make to you is no excuse for your appallingly rude and insulting response to him.
I suggest that the next time you log onto this forum you take a good, careful look at what he wrote and then do the only honourable thing left to you and retract your remarks, offer the gentleman an apology, and think much more carefully about what you know and what you're saying before posting anything further.
ELAC