Justforkix
OK. I apologise for criticising your English comprehension. If you would wish other PPRuNers to allow for such disadvantage, may I suggest that it would be more than helpful if you stated in your profile that you are from somewhere on this planet other than "3rd rock from the sun".
And I admit that I would find it difficult to write in any of the languages you nominate. This is possibly due to the fact that I have never had the desire to formally learn such languages, though I do speak some French, German, Russian and Norwegian.
With respect to the remainder of your post above, I would point to the fact that you seem to again miss the point, as follows:
The old flag carriers can't recieve handouts from their goverments.
I think you will find this statement is only true of EU flag carriers, and even then there have been some EU bailouts in the past. In any event, the world is far bigger than Europe.
Lowcost carriers are expanding in times were all other carries are cutting back capacity.
Nothing new about this. Remember the Laker Skytrain?
Passengers can choose between carriers with different concepts. High price and a lousy meal with free drinks, or low price with no frills.
Again, nothing new here. Been around for years, irrespective of how today's pax might see it.
I respectfully suggest to you that "if we [collectively speaking, of course] don't want to end up like Sabena, Swissair, Air Lingus and Olympic" then we would be well advised to look to the real reasons for the demise of these airlines. And the real reason is surely more to do with appallingly bad managements who relied on state bailouts more than once too often than anything "we" might have done. Thus it is not "we" who need to change, it is "them". And they have, haven't they. They've gone.
I suspect that what is happening in aviation at the moment is probably not bad in the long term. Even the fact that O'Leary chooses to treat his employees like dirt will eventually lead to its inevitable, satisfactory, conclusion. Either he or his airline will go.
[ 09 November 2001: Message edited by: tilii ]